You may recall a recent article on Nvidia’s offer to ATI. Nvidia gave ATI the opportunity to use PhysX if they took up CUDA. Well, the result from this offer has been agreed! ATI have decided to go with Nvidia; this is not a huge surprise as ATI could have been out of a job if it didn’t take up PhysX. Nvidia could easily force it upon game developers.
The Big Lime Greens will surely be the first with PhysX on their graphic drivers, but we are sure ATI will follow soon enough. ATI does have a good position at the moment; they have now joined with Nvidia’s PhysX and Intel’s Havok, a WIN-WIN situation
This is what happens when you are the underdog in an industry where two other top dogs are at eachother’s throat.
Both Intel and Nvidia can’t do without ATI in GPGPU scene and even overall business - ATI GFX boosts Intel mobo sells (though it’s mutual business) and Havoc needs ATI’s support if it has to go somewhere.
Physx, though have better chance to survive even without DAAMIT, a little bit of backing will always go a long way to make Cuda and Geforce a little more powerful in it their battle against X86 CPUs.
In return, what AMD gets? Whatever applications there will be for Larabee and Geforce, DAMMIT will be able to run them on its Radeons.
Go red team, go! Just be a little smart and play well
agiea was a company that was flawed from the beginning .hardware for physx calculations was jus never meant to be .they just invented a name cooked up a hardware and waited for someone (nvidia in this case) to to take the bait.
It has been said that it will be possible to run PhysX on most of the recent ATI GPUs, especially the one that have Shaders. ATI also have another choice, it could go and adopt Intel’s Havok and really screw with Nvidia’s plans. Potentially they could have both.
now i hope red team does the sensible thing and dumps physx for havok.nvidia has spent so much on acquiring ageia (which was totally not worth it according to insiders ) that they trying to recoup some of the costs by licensing the physx to the red team .i rele hope ati would go with havok and make a physx killa out of it.
ATI has already annonced that they are working with Havok. Physx is an add-on to that. But I wonder how they will support all APIs (CUDA+One by khronos group). May be they will see who is winning and then come out in open.
now as far as i see it seems intel is not too pleased with nvidia and they wanna license havok to ati so that its more widely used which will suit intels interest as and when they release larabee series gpus which i presume will be using havok as well .
maybe dammit will choose neither and decide to develop its open physics API or Microsoft supported physics API which doesnt rely on any specific hardware .
read this article Physics API war: AMD + Havok vs. Nvidia + PhysX vs. Intel Larrabee + Havok - [H]ard|Forum
So when should we expect support coming for ATI gpu’s, I hope they have something in their 4800’s so that phys x could be enabled with a driver update (like Nvidia), however since we haven’t heard of it, chances might be slick!
It is going to give Nvidia undue advantage till it is used by both in games and synthetic benchmarks!
actually the ageia physx driver and the havok both work well with the sps of hd 3000 and 4000 series gpus .these apis (havok and ageia) just use the shader processors to do the physx calulations in their own way .
This news is a BS!
Ive chkd amd press release/news room on amd.com, & other sites, its no whre mention..
If its true, dont u thnk its an insult of ATI’s own GPGPU program or CTM?..:@:
After playing with Nvidia’s CUDA SDK and PhysX SDK, Eran apparently got the PhysX layer to play along with Radeon cards. He mentioned that enabling PhysX support on Radeon cards is not particularly difficult, leading us to believe that physics on graphics cards may not so much be a technology problem but a game of politics.
If it comes out to be true, surely it wd be a wonderful work by Eran.
But, can ATI adopt Phyx due to workout of sme reviewer & not frm inside ATI??
Will ATI adopt CUDA, to support Physx?? What about its CTM/firestream program?
Its not not possible!!! :D:
Why not? CUDA is open for everyone. So ATi can adopt CUDA. That doesn’t mean that they have to drop their own GPGPU program. They can have both. So, ATi can have both Havok and Physx. It’s all good for us. The more app a particular card supports, the more value we get out of it.
We’ve asked ATI executives about CUDA and possibly PhysX support, and ATI explicitly said that for the time being ATI wants to support open platforms and technologies and that CUDA is not one of them.
