GTX 260 (216SP) @ Guru3D

What Hilbert has to say about this new card:

You know, how tiny this update might even be, I kind of like this updated little GTX 260. Where it was a 400 USD high-end graphics card two months ago, it now got a little more bite and a far lower price.

* **The product at reference specification is pretty much dead on with a Radeon HD 4870, at a slightly lower price = a win.**
* **The BFG version is massively overclocked, performance is actually close and/or similar to the GeForce GTX 280 = a win.**

So in retrospect, the standard GTX 260 216 SP products as tested today will cost you roughly 279 USD, and for that money you receive a very lovely graphics card that is highly versatile and feature rich.

It’s a bit of a paradox, are these new GPUs bad yielded GTX 280 cores with one shader cluster disabled, or are these better yields GTX 260 GPUs that now allow an extra cluster to be enabled? Well, who cares right? And surely, PhysX and Badaboom Video transcoding is fun stuff for the GPU, but in the end it boils down to one thing, how fast will this graphics card play my games and at what resolutions versus image quality. And we can say it does that pretty darn well. Granted, overall the Core 216 step is small, but once you look at the fastest clocked product performance whistles

Even when we fire up the hottest game released this month, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky and test at high quality and then that uber high DX10 enhanced mode, we still get a lot of performance out of it. The sheer amount of shader power versus a very decent amount of frame buffer size helps a lot with the hottest titles.

BFG’s offering with the GeForce GTX 260 OCX MaxCORE edition stunned me. Surely the product will be slightly more expensive, but for say 299 USD you get to play around with a card that is performing really close to GTX 280 performance. For BFG top be able to offer this product at launch and at such speeds is to me pretty amazing. Combine it with the step-up program and very extensive warranty policy, I have to say that is a golden little gem there in our review machine. Two very big thumbs up to BFG for making this product very interesting. Definitely worth our Top Pick award.

So the bottom line. The GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 is merely a notch faster than it’s predecessor .. making it compete fiercely with the competitors best Single-GPU product. None the less, the real trick is the new 279 USD pricing level. Add to that the additional performance and then the real candy .. the overclocked models from the board partners and you have the ingredients for a very nice product, making this release extremely interesting. And that’s just really fascinating for sure.

My take

Nvidia wins. But not by much and not for long. Here is why
1- HD4870 will come down in price. Expect it to fall below $250 very quickly. If Nvidia keeps up pressure, it may even go lower.

2- HD4850 X2 is coming. Now it may launch at a lower price than what was earlier suggested. And if is around $330 (one 4850 is around $170), GTX260s party is ruined.

3- Overclocked GTX260 (216) are going to eat into sales of GTX280 badly

4- HD 4870 is still a better product due to its architecture and it’s my hunch that its massive next-gen shaders (in SM 2 and SM 3 48XX trounces 2XX cards) will come handy for say six months from now. One example is Stalker Clear Sky at 1650X1080 res or above. It’s 1900 XT of this generation.

5- Nvidia has Physx and Cuda but ATI has better HD decoding (VC-1). I personally prefer better HD-decoding right now

^^ your fifth quote luks funny to me. Gamers want fps not decoding..no offense.
I think, we gonna mostly see OC versions of new GTX 260 as stock one is not worth at..
AMD need to put 4870 below $230 & let to compete OC versions of 4870..

Gaming is great, but once in a while I like to watch movies on my comp. And I would love If i can watch HD movies without any stutter. :wink:

the better ppd of gtx260(cuda) over 4870 is a big selling point for people who fold and the extra shaders that this card has it will be better than the original,the physx support doesn’t look quite good at the moment.
so when are we gonna see some pricedrops? :smiley:

yay nvidia is back :rofl: let the fight and price drops begin again :devil2:

gaming is great coz of OC’d BFG they tested.. Luk AT review, things are certainly different there.. I’d agree 100% with your 3rd quote, Stalker ClearSky shows along with DMC 4 show how future games will favour massive shader architecture..

will still buy 4870, 8x AA allmost free :happy:

future games will also use more memory and GTX 260 = 896 and 4870 = 512mb :stuck_out_tongue:

So who’s the most probable winner??

You, the consumer :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Nice move by Nvidia but whether it hurts AMD or not is secondary. Problem is This nvidia move surely hurt’s them bcoz ppl buying 280 may end up buying 216 SP. And AMD had not yet cut they price on 4k series so They may, on top of it AMD playing safe with 4850X2 in case market turn with 216 SP AMD may drop a 4850X2 has nuclear.

Guy’s any news about the monster R7** card never heard about it after july?

I’ve read, 8AA is free only on 4870X2?
@ RoboGHOST
1GB 4870 is already out..:unamused_face:
@ Vishwash
R700 is already out & on top.. Are not u same vishwas on CHIP?

yay nvidia is back let the fight and price drops begin again

But buyers like u, who bought from KMD at 15-16k are screwed :rofl:

the old GTX 260 are dropping to 200~220$ by a week or so :D(12-13k via KMD)

Nvidia just screws its buyers and partners big time :stuck_out_tongue:

Why dont they just put 240 SPs on GTX 260 and price it at 250$…that will screw HD 4870 for sure :rofl:

But still I wont pick it up as the IQ with GTX 280 was quite bad and I noticed it 1st hand with the Zotac GTX 280 I had for a week.

Uber crap it is :rofl:

NV share is at 9$, lowest in last 5 yrs i think :smiley:

no i am not screwed :unamused_face:
i sold it few days back already :rofl:
and guess what the price of new 260 is 239 $ shipped for the cheapest one :open_mouth:
i will get GT212 probably when it comes :smiley:
getting something else until that time :slight_smile:

This does look to be a good card, and realistically speaking I dont think 4870 will fare near the $230 mark anytime soon, there would be drops but only around $10 or so, also 1gb radeons are more expensive than 512mb cards. the 896mb will surely help in future games, both architectures are pretty close in performance. 216 sp is good but 1gb on the 280 will still be a selling point for it, though they might need to drop its price a bit too for 4850x2, also its price wont come down below $380 in the next few weeks in my opinion. So more price wars, consumers the winner!

^^early new reports before the launch of the rv770 said a targeted price for the 4870 was 220dollars… so i guess it is possible

I doubt this coz from what I read, ATI isn’t doing a lot of profit on the 48xx series, they are trying to regain market share at this point, and with ddr5 still expensive , again it wont be easy for them to have more drops.

great news…RED vs GREEN .round 3 begin:D…

Of course, price cut means profit margins will slip. But then this is the only way. It’s business, if they don’t cut price that means either GTX260 (Core 216 :rofl: ) has no impact on sales of HD 4870 or AMD does not want to be in business.

ATI does not need any drastic price cut. $20 is enough to ruin nVidia’s party. So far 4870 is not coming down because sales are good even when GTX 260 (without Core 216 :rofl: ) is around $250-$260 mark.

Yes GDDR5 is expensive but so is building huge 2XX chip with 448-bit memory bus on a 65nm process.

Moreover, 4850X2 is round the corner. let’s see what comes out of it.

For consumers, these are exciting times and I am waiting for 4870 Toxic :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

4870 is still trounces GTX260, GTX 260 Core 216, eVGA GTX260 Core 216 Superclocked and BFG GTX260 OCX MAXCORE :rofl: when it comes to AA performance

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 280 Killer? The 216 shader GeForce GTX 260

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 280 Killer? The 216 shader GeForce GTX 260